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  • C

    @​aymat

    Just released my first ever thing, so exciting

    can I have your input on the mixing/mastering?  🤠 🤠 

    And do you know of anywhere I could promote it?

    Thanks,

    John


    Just copied your format for my post on the release page. Hope that's okay
  • aymatA

    All,

    Just wanted to mention, ANYTIME you finish a track you're proud of, PLEASE post a link to it here: 

    https://aymat.org/community/releases/

    The whole point of this community is to have a place where you can share, release and promote your music. 

    I would LOVE the release section to be filled with releases from all the session producers, REGARDLESS of it being released on LF or not. The release forum is set up specifically for this so please feel free to post ANY music you'd like to promote in it, no need to ask! 👍 ❤


  • aymatA

    @​samuraitracks Val!

    A buddy of mine shared this label with me today and I thought this might be something you'd like, particularly this producer named Chlär. He's a techno producer but his production level is fantastic:

    Check it out let me know what you think! Hope you're well my man! - J


    Oh I almost forgot! ANYTIME you finish a track you're proud of, PLEASE post a link here:  https://aymat.org/community/releases/ I would love for this section to just be filled with releases from all the session producers, regardless of it being released on LF or not. It's the forum I set up specifically for this so please feel to post ANY music you'd like to promote here as well, no need to ask! ️
  • aymatA

    Few years old but a really interesting video to that talks about key changes in #1 top billboard tracks from 1958 to to 2023 (round that basically to today as well). Most modern popular music really doesn't have a lot key changes, if any, which is why a lot of it tends to sound the same IMO. Having key changes in a track isnt a requirement, but it does make it interesting and helps the track stand out more, almost like having an extended vocabulary to help you articulate and express things better. Its a little different though with electronic music since it tends to lean more towards dance and he touches on that in the beginning when he references disco. But I think its a really interesting find and something to consider:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVllpzhA5VM


  • L

    recently, i've made in just a couple of days three tracks that i'm quite happy with (link at the bottom, don't want to advertise, just want to genuinely share my thoughts)
    one is a goa trance tune, something i've wanted to make for almost two decades. the other two are techno/house/trance, don't really know how to categorise them. i now wanted to talk a bit about the "process", and explain what i feel Aymat had shared that is completely right: something i had known for a long time but i could never express quite rightly or understand completely (i still don't of course!) i will refer to the pdf he shared with us, quoting some parts (in bold)

    the last two tracks i made are two different versions of the same one. without going into the details, let me explain what happened with the second mix: grey district (suburb mix), if you are curious. (a big factor i'm not going to talk about: i was in quite a happy mood because i had made the other track and everybody liked it; plus it's the last days before september so free time is running short, got to take advantage of dead hours.)

    i felt the first track idea had potential for another version, another mix, or something in the same style. so, logically, i spent the whole morning forcing myself to make it in the same style. i wasn't having fun, as all the melodies or rhythms i could find didn't really fit. i changed the melody many times, never quite happy with the results. after having lunch, i came back and said "ok, screw this, i'm just going to roll with what i have, since i know this has potential". i completely removed the melody, messed around with automation in one go, and in less than two hours i had one of the best tracks i had made. so, what happened? i say this: And the moment I stopped treating every unfinished idea as an obligation, something clicked.

    i was just having fun. the rhythm was infectious, so i told myself: "wait, this still feels like a proper mix; it's not exactly what i had in mind, but ideas are flowing immediately, the track is producing itself... let's go on with this". so, yes, this is a big point: no forcing and no obligation (this is also why i stopped using Fiverr btw). what he describes as the "feeling" of the track clicked quickly, and i took advantage of that immediately as now i'm much better at recognising it. the "hard part" was to delete completely hours of progress, realising it was wasted (if it's something really interesting, you could still save presets/midis/whatever). i think that's a big problem: sometimes it's hard for us to take a radical change (when the track needs it), so we get stuck with an "inferior" version, or something we are not quite happy with it (and the chain keeps going as we add more elements or we make progress).

    i guess another "advantage" i have in making a track i'm happy with in such a short time is that i don't really obsess over technical details; i try to keep everything simple in that regard. i stopped applying EQ/Comp. everywhere and i got better at mixing and getting a feeling over the years. the result? this track is quite nice to hear even on the phone!

    about the previous goa track: again, i was just having fun. i'm not saying i was laughing throughout, but the process was very enjoyable. then, of course, the hard part was automating and mixing it a bit to bring it a proper final result, but that's the boring technical part and everybody at this point knows how to do that, it just takes hard work and some time; the hardest part is coming up with the idea; or rather, "shaping" the idea into the world.

    ***The goal isn’t perfection. It’s progress. And every track you finish is a step toward making the next one better. ***This is a point I've believed in since I started with a cracked fruity loops many years ago (now on Ableton); i've made many, many tracks, with ups and downs; some of them were absolute dogsh1t, but it's thanks to these tracks that i am now at a point where i can say i am much better at arranging, producing, and so on and so forth. as we've all talked about, finishing tracks is a skill on its own and needs to be practised. as Aymat once told me, even uploading it and sharing it is part of the process. it makes it feel like a finished product.

    i do not want to sound pompous or conceited with this post. i just want to share that what Aymat is sharing here are *artistical, universal truths *that are valid not only for music, but for many art forms. without getting philosophical or into other realms we're not concerned about at the moment, i have to say understanding this kind of stuff is a big undertaking. but the beauty of it is that we don't really need to understand it, we just have to recognise it and take advantage of it.

    the track in question. very simple track honestly, but i'm amazed at what i managed to make with so little and in such short time.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArWZWY3dfp0


    @​samuraitracks VAL!!!!! THAT'S IT!!!! That is EXACTLY what I'm talking about!!! FEELING IS EVERYTHING! Fuck man, you got me all teary eyed lol   Dude, Yoda hit that nail on the head: "You must feel the Force around you; here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere." And he also said this, which is the EXACT opposite of what happens when you're not feeling your way through the process: ***"Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering.” ***I've already said this privately but you've outdone yourself with these tracks. Absolutely fantastic work and I am truly in awe at you've accomplished here. One thing I wanted to mention regarding your mixing comment, its crazy how keeping things simple is really the core thing that makes everything in production easier to finish. And I think a lot of that has to do with how we convince ourselves that doing or adding more somehow makes things better, which is almost never the case.  Being precious about this stuff too is another thing that keeps us stuck. Music is incredibly personal to all of us, thats why its so hard to let go of something youve made. And thats where the whole process behind organizing projects with potential vs one's without it comes into play. You dont have to think or force anything when do it this way. Also, you dont sound pompous or conceited for sharing this. This is the whole point of having this community, to share what you learn and pass it on. What I learn from someone else, I will always happily share. So THANK YOU for sharing because the more people see it, the more people it will help. Like you said dude*, all of this exists as "artistical, universal truths". *None of this is something I came up with, or anyone for that matter. It's always been there like oxygen.. you dont notice it when you can breath properly, but you sure as fuck notice it when you cant   Val, BOTH tracks you shared sound AMAZING. They're energetic, they flow and vibe and the best part is I can lose myself in the music. They are fucking legit. BRAVO!  ️️️
  • aymatA

    @​samuraitracks @​johncave @​numaphlex @​izlo @​midge-f @​joe

    Hi peeps,

    I'm in the process of setting up the first newsletter and producer guide promo. Could you do me a huge favor and subscribe here:
    https://aymat.org/hard-drive-full-of-almost/

    I'm testing to make sure the subscription automation is working properly. You should receive a confirmation email first for the subscription and a second email for the producer guide once confirmed. If you can let me know if you were successful with the subscription and received the e-book that would great.

    Thank you so much for helping me with this! 👍


    @​samuraitracks Val, thanks for letting me know! The captcha thing is a pain in the ass, I cant stand it but its either that or endless spam    Glad you at least have the guide. I think I know why its happening this way but I'll do another round of testing. Thanks for letting me know!
  • aymatA

    Not sure if any of you caught this video Alex Ball posted about two weeks ago but it was a lot of fun watching. Even though he said that first track was in the style of Mario Kart, it could have easily been Sonic. I had both the 990 and 5080 and intimately familiar with both... crazy how much those sounds were used 😆 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK0FhoO3w7U


  • aymatA

    This one came up on my feed today, not much there in terms of arranging but nice simple overview of how to build up an idea using samples with a 16 bar loop. This is typically how I start and build out all of my tracks, although I tend to work mostly in midi to create everything from scratch and then bounce out to audio for arranging. Either way the process is the same. Worth checking out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhgAQWzkZ2M


    Let me add to that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kreWKsu0tg
  • C

    Hi Joel,

    Hope you're doing well!

    Following on from last session, I've finally finished a track for latent forms this weekend!! Do you wanna give mastering it a go? 

    I'll get back to you with a name and cover image in this thread soon, not decided yet.

    It's a trance-y banger because I'm obsessed with trance recently :)))))

    here's the drive link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X6_trNHE2f8_LwAS-xUjwORTtaoeTUU0/view?usp=sharing

    and I also attached it to this post


    @​aymat Here are the stems: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qh_Q-NkMHnfQrtgU2wytUNWbyZBrKsq_?usp=sharing
  • aymatA

    @​izlo @​numaphlex @​johncave @​midge-f @​samuraitracks :

    Nice freebie:

    https://www.musicradar.com/music-tech/sampleradar-207-free-90s-jungle-samples


    @​samuraitracks Val! Glad you're back and hopefully had an opportunity to disconnect even if went longer than you expected!   Yeah man, things just seem to get more complicated these days. I'm dealing with renewing my residency at the moment... man what a shit show. Funcionarios are the bane of my existence   Lets catch up soon if you have time before school kicks off again!
  • aymatA

    @​samuraitracks , @​johncave , @​numaphlex , @​izlo , @​midge-f , @​joe

    New release out today! This is the second collaboration between Izlo and myself, this time moving into progressive house territory. We're incredibly happy with how it turned out and hope you enjoy it!

    Bandcamp release page:
    https://latentforms.bandcamp.com/track/silent-signals

    Facebook:
    https://www.facebook.com/latent.forms

    To celebrate the release we're giving away free download codes below, please feel free to share with others. They can be redeemed at:
    https://latentforms.bandcamp.com/yum

    qaua-5d39
    g75g-7cdz
    yw7y-5hwg
    yp5n-75d3
    t97v-jfss
    2yw7-kphd
    dtpa-gnpc
    vf4d-kl7y
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    z7qc-y63a
    nmr4-bkl7
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    jsuk-3pz5

    Cheers! 🍻


    Love the bass intro and the weird percussion synth that spazes out. this made me realise i need to get better at programming drums and rhythmic elements. it's not my style of music but it was certainly enjoyable. well done guys
  • aymatA

    @​johncave

    John, great session today, great catching up as always!

    Here are the links to the tutorials I did for Val, hope they help you get acquainted with Ozone and how to approach mastering in a slightly different way:

    Looking forward to the tracks and hollar if you need anything! - J


    @​aymat also made a new topic, check it out
  • aymatA

    Just a quick heads up, I'll be doing server updates today. No expected downtime but the site and forum should be running a lot snappier from here on out. If you have any questions or run into any issues. Please let me know. Thanks!


  • aymatA

    Just a quick shout out to the genius that was William Orbit. RIP

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai6F1pWxayA


    @​aymat Damn bro, 2006 and i haven't, while searching i was about to say i didn't knew him either, but then i remember his band from Beavis and Butthead, just didn't knew his name, gonna check it out! thanks for the heads up.
  • C

    Hi Joel, 

    I feel so out of the loop with my album production. I made another super cool track but I've now done nothing production wise for a few weeks. Thinking I should book another session with you soon to get back on track, and look over the mixing on your gran turismo track like we discussed. What do you think?

    Have you ever felt really out of sync with your process for a few weeks and then found it daunting to open the DAW and keep working on tracks again? Any advice? I'm scared to come back to a track and end up ruining it because I'm not in that larger 'flow' state where I remember how to pick things up across the span of the days I'm working on it.

    I got a drum machine and have a sequencer on the way, so I finally have the ability to go dawless for fun once everything has arrived, but I've been so caught up in the excitement of it that I haven't opened ableton unless I'm practicing my keyboard playing :c

    Poor me right!! 🤣 

    I also increasingly feel the need to wrap up all the tracks I have for my album at this point. I think I have 6 or 7 of them, all basically finished. Only problem is the DAUNTING part - giving them all a final polish, making sure all the transitions are nice, adding little pieces of ear candy, finalising the mixes, masters, etc. I've always been really good at finishing projects up to the 80% mark but I'm now reaching the 20% polish I'm not used to and crapping my pants. Really struggling to bridge the gap.

    Time to go deep into my problems finishing this thing in our next call. I've been gliding along, again, because the 80% is known to me. At this point I have enough and need to stop putting off thoughts of getting it finished. SO SCARED!

    Hope you've been well and I appreciate the help and your input as always.

    Cheers,

    John


    @​aymat Don't worry about it! Life is chaotic and I know you didn't mean to miss it! No need to make it up to me, you're helping me with for free which is already more than enough. I'll book a session for tomorrow now.  Thanks for keeping me updated John
  • aymatA

    Got served a couple of insane videos today from the YT algo:

    This channel is fucking fantastic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpLFASOJJyc

    Ridiculous drumming:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g93XjvbbtII


  • aymatA

    @​numaphlex Hey Felipe,

    I just put a little tutorial showing how to get something going quickly with not a lot of effort using a little chord trick. You may already know this but if not, let me know if you find it useful - J


    Yo boss @​aymat. ive managed to get us all home safe and sound, arrived at around 22:00. body is all sore and yesterday i shit you not, it was kinda vibrating. fun fact: when we had the meeting at the beach i forgot my flip-flops outside the car (just realized when we got at my moms house a 5min drive).
  • aymatA

    @​johncave

    Hi John,

    Here are a few variations of the cover design I've been working on. Let me know if any of these are moving in the right direction and we can fine tune them. Btw, the dot patterns on the top of the last two versions actually spells out "the polarity of technology" in brail. I thought it would make for a cool detail / easter egg


    You're a legend, thank you
  • aymatA

    @​numaphlex Got your message, put a little tutorial together to help you out:

    Here are the samples:
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/12QlEpyyj9RIDcPWAAUoZ1WFB8RnvbIo6/view?usp=drive_link

    Let me know if that helps! - J


    @​aymat yo Boss, take anotha look on the folder above, ive updated it with two break loops and a looped context with the tune. Tell me watchu think , also i can keep going, there's SO much stuff in there. Just shout. F
  • aymatA

    @​izlo

    Homie! So good to catch up with you on Sunday, I was really missing that! ❤️ 

    Got the stems zipped up already, forgot I did that a while back, they were up on the drive lol

    One thing, I work a little differently when I mix because I'm using a satellite mix console inside Bitwig which routes audio a bit weird so the stems might need to be level adjusted. Feel free to add/remove/mix how you like. I'm happy to release it as is and start working on the next one, but if want to mess with it some more, we can take a couple more passes on it. Also, I know I said it before I'm so happy for you that youre in a creative state again and super excited to see what you come up with moving forward. Anything you need just hollar! Big hugs! - J


    @​izlo DUDE! I'm so sorry, for some reason the forum was setting topics to private! I just fixed it... fuck me, this fucking forum is a pain in the ass lol